Crucifixion - .. the most gruesome death penalty of all time... ?

[ColdFire]

.. now ,most people may of course immediately think of the man of Nazareth / Galilee when the word crucifixion is mentioned...

Indeed , he is one of the ((( most prominent )) people on whom this Roman death method was applied...


.. dare I say, this Roman method of inflicting death lives in infamy because of said man of Galilee . .
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... I thought recently... There have been many methods throughout time to put people to death . .


Hanging , quartering , the guillotine , the stake etc..

.. while it certainly is a gruesome method to burn people at the stake , to have your head chopped off by an axe etc etc ..

.. let's face it, though..

.. many other methods of death were (((at least))) ( in the sense of ((as bad as it can get))) ) somewhat quick..

The cutter of a guillotine would crash-land on your neck , when being hung it wouldn't (((take too long))) for you to be gone and even when sentenced to burn at the stake chances were the fire would maybe consume the air around you so that you might pass out and/ or the smoke would make you pass out before fire could consume you...


But.. being nailed onto a wooden cross and being left alone .. ?...

First, it's common knowledge people where nailed through their very hands etc..

.. chances were you (((wouldn't already lose enough blood)) from those wounds to pass out.....

Then.. also the shame of being stared at by a whole community for a long time . And maybe mocked ...

.. then ,left alone to suffer there.... Not to mention animals like ravens et al getting to you...

Whoo-hoo-hoo ....

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... Sorry if this thread may come across as creepy but I recently really gave a thought about which method of of death penalty may really have been cruelest and such ....


...what do you think..?..


.. quite a subject, I admit...

But.... always look on the bright side of life , of course .



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No, seriously.. what's your opinion....?

 

[R Crowley the White]

Crucification because a slow torturous execution is in the running for most brutal execution method, although savage societies had many torture methods equally bad or worse, like flaying, then staked to the ground in the desert where insects and birds could have their way with your body, followed by slow death. Impalement is clearly a nasty method, yet death likely comes much sooner than by crucifixion. What used to be done with dungeons was cruel, where death would come only after years of confinement much of it while insane. Does such count as an execution method? Probably. Imagine living in a castle with your enemy in the deepest dungeon beneath your feasting and revelry for years. Folks were less empathetic in those days.

 

[ColdFire]

Crucification because a slow torturous execution is in the running for most brutal execution method, although savage societies had many torture methods equally bad or worse, like flaying, then staked to the ground in the desert where insects and birds could have their way with your body, followed by slow death. Impalement is clearly a nasty method, yet death likely comes much sooner than by crucifixion. What used to be done with dungeons was cruel, where death would come only after years of confinement much of it while insane. Does such count as an execution method? Probably. Imagine living in a castle with your enemy in the deepest dungeon beneath your feasting and revelry for years. Folks were less empathetic in those days.

Yup, I agree..

Well.. since the Romans are always claimed to have had " the most effective empire in world history ", they came up with this extreme form of inflicting death, which could maybe be deemed as another superlative, in the negative in this case..

Well.. other tribes/ nations of course had empires too but what set Rome apart were maybe two things.. That they put their kind of civilisation onto their conquered people and that they were totally romanised, i. e. that they had to learn latin and pay tribute to the Roman rulers.. In a way, the Roman empire even never ceased to exist, when the Roman military empire fell the Catholic church more or less took its place and Latin lives on in the mediterranean peoples of today.. Also, many future empires drew hard on Rome...

The German word 'Kaiser' and the title of the later rulers of Russia 'Czar' were based on the Roman title of 'Ceasar'. Also, the methods of administering Rome set would set standards..



Just sayin'...

 

[ColdFire]

.. while we're talking 'bout empires, yes there were other empires besides the Roman one, of course..


The Mongolian empire , the British empire for example..

I have already given my thoughts on why the Roman empire might have stood out above..


.. take the Mongolian empire for example.. The Mongols were always known as keen steppe-riders, dare I say conquerors... As far as history goes apparently Genghis Khan united the different mongolian tribes to set out onto a large conquest-campaign..

.. not only did they take Asia but parts of Europe as well...

As a matter of fact, it is claimed that many people in Eurasia today could prove genetic ( DNA ) relation to Genghis Khan since he was known for taking many females at all times into his tent.... this went on wherever the Mongols went...

They must have been cocky in the end.. or so it is said... Well.. after conquering such a large empire it would be understandable that their self-esteem would be 'up high'.. In fact I once read that Genghis Khan once almost must have proclaimed himself next-to-God ( !), no kidding... It is said that letters by the Mongols were signed something like " God rules earth, Genghis Khan rules what is on its surface.." ..

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Concerning the British empire..

It was , dare I say, maybe more of an economic empire.. The Brits had trading-relations in many places and people of British descent had settled in places all over the world ( North America, South Africa, Australia and so on)..

Of course, this was all overseen by the British authorities...

.. it is also no big secret that the NWO-movement ( the international bankers, the Freemasons etc ) of course were involved in this empire.. Just sayin'...


.. so yes, the world has seen many empires but why I think the Roman one maybe stood out I have said above..

Sry for getting a bit off-topic here....

 

[clefty]

"British empire"...

might I suggest you look into Londinium?

Londinium - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not brought up much around here...

but still...

 

[ColdFire]

"British empire"...

might I suggest you look into Londinium?

Londinium - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not brought up much around here...

but still...

Yup.. of course Britain was heavily influenced by Rome ( if you implied that even Britain wouldn't be where it is without Romans..)


Yet.. still after the Romans we know that there was another invasion of Britain too.. The Anglos and the Saxons ..


Yup, Britain has indeed seen multiple invasions ..


The deal about Britain is that it was once entirely inhabited by Celtic / Gaelic peoples ( I'm talking about the entirety of Britain / the British Isles..)..


The Anglos and the Saxons brought a portion of germanic blood over there..


The state they founded was Anglia which would later become England..

Celtic / Gaelic peoples still lived west from them in the area of Wales and Scotland in the north plus in Ireland and other maybe smaller isles ..

Yes, the old celtic / Gaelic peoples of Britain once were subject to Rome and ironically, practically as soon as the Romans left.. another invasion...

Yup, the British Isles have a complex history

 

[clefty]

Yup.. of course Britain was is heavily influenced by Rome ( if you implied that even Britain wouldn't be where it is without Romans..)


Yet.. still after the Romans we know that there was another invasion of Britain too.. The Anglos and the Saxons ..


Yup, Britain has indeed seen multiple invasions ..


The deal about Britain is that it was once entirely inhabited by Celtic / Gaelic peoples ( I'm talking about the entirety of Britain / the British Isles..)..


The Anglos and the Saxons brought a portion of germanic blood over there..


The state they founded was Anglia which would later become England..

Celtic / Gaelic peoples still lived west from them in the area of Wales and Scotland in the north plus in Ireland and other maybe smaller isles ..

Yes, the old celtic / Gaelic peoples of Britain once were subject to Rome and ironically, practically as soon as the Romans left.. another invasion...

Yup, the British Isles have a complex history

fixed it...

Multiple invasions hasn't changed this fact.

Just follow the money...who benefits?

(sounds better in Latin)

D G REX afterall...

 

[Mike]

fixed it...

Multiple invasions hasn't changed this fact.

Just follow the money...who benefits?

(sounds better in Latin)

D G REX afterall...

Translation: "Here are some crossword puzzle clues. Do the research."

Typical semi-derailed garbage from clefty.

 

[clefty]

For even more graphic descriptions of the blood and gore:



1:48:47
"this is the bitter cup that he's drinking to the dregs and look at what it looks like...when he could have snapped his finger or like waved a wand and said...Abracadabra I save you"

Right?

I mean IF His Law could be changed why not change it BEFORE He went through all this...

"Wages of sin is death paper cut" or something...