How much would you include/exclude Jews in your politics?

[kanethenotorious]

People on thephora at least historically belonged to a lot of different political movements. These days there is less ideological diversity but thephora still has roots as an ideologically diverse forum. I'm curious how you would handle Jews in your political movement, whatever it is. My stance would be the third option. I would exclude only extremist Jews. However, I decided to make a second option about apostates and "x-Jews" because that's legitimate line to take, that you accept converts and generally exclude practicing Jews but still accept a legitimate defection. However, I'm still siding with the third option, not the second.

This poll is public.

 

[Cole of Them Northwoods]

Absolute judenrein.

 

[kanethenotorious]

Back in the day, if I had written this, people would be trolling me by asking "but who are you." But that's total bullshit, because we all have the opportunity to include and exclude people in our personal political lives. People who would ask "but who are you" are internet warlords who worship other internet warlords.

 

[Cole of Them Northwoods]

Kamerad, woher stammst du?

 

[kanethenotorious]

I had to google that. I do, on my dad's side, have some Jewish ancestry. Otherwise I'm Polish and Ukranian. I understand why some people would exclude all Jews and some people would even exclude people with paternal Jewish ancestry. They're taking a strict stance to ethnic purity and trying not to get subverted by infiltrators. But in my personal life I don't refuse to associate with pure blooded or maternally descended Jews, I only refuse to associate with things like JTF.org. I do get why people would choose more exclusive options than what I selected.

edit: There are two interesting communities on reddit. R/ exjew and R/ JewsofConscience. R/ exjew would qualify for the second option in the poll. R/ JewsofConscience would qualify for the third option.

 

[kanethenotorious]

I think there is a tendency of people to underestimate that Jews do in fact defect from Jewishness. If you read the faq on this subreddit, a number of people are making threads about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjew/wiki/faq/#

They're threads about people getting cut off from family members and various issues that come up from defecting from Judaism.

The far right tends to propagandize Jews as a monolith.

Jesus arguably defected from Jewishness depending on whether you believe he actually renounced Judaism. (Even if you believe that he's the son of a Jew and a Roman Soldier, under Jewish law he'd still be Jewish under Nazi Law he wouldn't be Jewish he'd be a mischlinge.)