Southern Literature Reading Thread

Macrobius

Megaphoron
via http://whigdev.com/white/index.php?threads/southern-literature-reading-thread.2518/

continuing archive thread: http://www.thephora.net/forum/forum/private-forums/dixieland/16427-southern-books-thread

A continuation of the Reading Group at Original Dissent:
http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5394

Next week we cover the writings of Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis -- popular topics, surely, for a discussion of Southern Literature, but this week we conclude the Antebellum era, which in line with Romanticism generally is more poetic, despite a lingering interest in history and the Revolution. We will return to it briefly, in Week 11, with the 'Age of Poe', who died young and is thus considered after the famous men of the generation preceding, as our book follows dates of birth.

We have had a long spring break, but perhaps we will have more interest, now that school is ending for the younger folk, and the leisure of summer is upon it. What better time to pick up the literature of one's own people, even if in mid course? We have 60 years to cover -- and what a momentous 60 years they are -- from 1826 to 1895.

In this age, the literature of South Carolina comes to the fore -- we have already discussed this, in the evolution of literary society in Columbia around 1825

http://books.google.com/books?id=F_gnAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&lr=#PPA201,M1

The trend continues in this section. We will cover Lagare through Lamar in this post. Francis Lister Hawkes, the famous historian of North Carolina, whose lost colony is older than Virginia's even, will be omitted -- as we already commented on his Virginia Dare (and the naming of http://vdare.com !), and Roanoke colony narrative. However, if you did not read them, by all means do so now.

http://books.google.com/books?id=F_gnAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&lr=#PPA201,M1

Our first writer is Hugh Swinton Legare (accent on the last e, and pronounced 'Luh-GREE' of course), a South Carolinian. In his 'Commerce and Wealth vs. War', delivered on the floor of the Legislature (1837), he comments on a crucial trend in Europe, the increase of prosperity that, by 1850, rendered much of the conflict of the past moot -- and foreshadowed the future conflicts that would devour his state, in a generation, and for a century afterwards, down to our own time. Notice his testimony that the Industrial Revolution dates from 1815-1830, not earlier -- a 'fact' of history that we would do well to discard. The Industrial Revolution, and the re-paganisation of culture ('The Greek Revival', ca. 1820) are concomitant. This is the era that William Cobbett, too, travelled in Europe, and wrote the accounts that so inspired Antony Ludovici, in a later era, that he adopted his name as a pseudonym (though only for his anti-Semitic writings).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cobbett
http://www.anthonymludovici.com/texts.htm
http://www.anthonymludovici.com/jews_pre.htm

His description of the Ardennes (in Belgium), in 1819 and 1835, brackets the exact time of the Industrial Revolution in that country.

His portrait of Demosthenes, given the rising interest in Democracy of his age, is not without interest. His account of an aristocrat's travels, 1825-1826 through the South, must detain us even longer! This fellow must have been among the last to meet Adams and Jefferson, who both died on July 4th, 1826, soon after his visit. The duke's comment on the latent nobility, or aristocracy, of he South, is returned to by many visitors. (Our writer says....)

""Finally" (to use a favorite mode of expression of his own), he is amazed at the profusion of militia titles in Virginia, which almost persuaded him he was at the headquarters of a grand army, and at the aristocratic notions of some of the gentlemen in the same state, who made no secret of their taste for primogeniture and hereditary nobility.

Indeed, in the era of the Industrial Revolution, this must be one of the last survivals of feudal Europe, however modified by circumstances. Remember that the 'cult of educational degrees' is not yet with us -- the Ph.D. was not found on American soil, except as a foreign import, before the 1870s. The role of the 'military class' has but an echo in our current society, and has long been replaced by professors and managers, as a pseudo-nobility.

That His Highness found the best society in Columbia, goes without saying, for this era.

Moving to our next author, Mirabeau Buonaparte Lamar, we are speaking of the second President of the Republic of Texas, when it was an independent nation and not yet a state. Texas, in fact, had five such, and Lamar succeeded Samuel Houston in this office.

It is truly amazing how many Southerners were both legislators and men of letters -- or not so amazing considering the standards of the age compared to ours. Some of the literature we read is little better than so many blog posts, historical interest aside, yet much betokens a time when men were simply better educated than now. In our readings, that time is quickly passing, and the likes of Adams, Jefferson, down to Webster and Calhoun, will not be seen after the age of Lincoln -- and Lincoln himself was largely self-educated. Soon we will be in an age of autodidacts and nostalgia for a culture destroyed -- and that has not been rebuilt, even to this present day.

Yet for now, our legislators are men of letters, and Lamar's charming poem, 'The Daughter of Mendoza', from his Verse Memorials, points to a more innocent time, when the beauty of a Hispanic woman might be sung by a White Man, in all innocence, in a Texas as confident of its victory and territory, as of its blood.
 
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Macrobius

Megaphoron
A friend of mine from Kentucky turned to me one day and said 'How 'bout them rats?' I looked at him and replied 'Them's good eatin' Apparently, that first phrase was a family joke with him, and he thought my answer the best ever.

So, how 'bout them rats?

Thems good readin'....


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Macrobius

Megaphoron
Post your favourites. Here are some primary and secondary sources I enjoy, either specifically on or about the South, or with substantial discussion of the Southern colonies. (Tip o' the hat to Roland for suggesting some recommendations).

For general historical framework, the two sources mentioned in the 'Anglosphere Primer' are fairly on target, at least more than the standard histories:

http://www.pattern.com/bennettj-anglosphereprimer.html

Fischer, David Hackett. Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in North America

Phillips, Kevin. The Cousins’ Wars: Religion, Politics, and the Triumph of Anglo-America, Basic Books, New York.

I also find Jimmy Cantrell's essays (and presumably the books he wrote, but I haven't read them) add necessary balance to these two sources.

There are several collections on the net of Colonial materials, Southern writings, or related to the Revolutionary War or the War Between the States. Some of the more useful are:

http://constitution.org (constitutional law, very broadly)

Virtual Jamestown: http://www.virtualjamestown.org/

The Online Library of Liberty: http://oll.libertyfund.org/

Among the historical documents, Jefferson's Notes on the State of Virginia at OLL, was specifically designed to influence the French favourably, so it is a bit odd in its bias, but indispensable. He mentions two standard histories of Virginia available in his day, Stith and Beverley. Beverly's is available online at Virtual Jamestown, and very much worth a read -- only a quarter of it deals with history.

Jefferson:

http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php...3777&Itemid=28

For a discussion of the politics of America in terms of the Glorious Revolution and the 'Old Whigs', Trevor Colbourn's Lamp of Experience is indispensable:

http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php...3817&Itemid=28

For politics, besides the entire collection at constitution.org, we have specifically the two major works of John C. Calhoun (where are included there I think). There are several nice sites that cover the Anti-Federalists.

I've mentioned before Richard M. Weaver's Southern Tradition at Bay which is one of the few 20th century authors I can recommend.

A bit off-topic but not really are parallel discussions of English history. For a deconstruction of the English patriotic myth (part and parcel of Whiggery), Edwin Jones The English Nation:

http://www.amazon.com/English-Nation.../dp/0750925191

J.C.D. Clarke's Revisionist works, esp. both editions of English Society, are key. Among English authors, Samuel Johnson and Burke (in reference to the American Revolution), Disraeli, Gladstone (including his speech supporting the Confederacy) are well-known from Neo-Con or Near-Con writers like Russell Kirk. However, they write from a very Northern perspective, as a rule.

Tucker's Blackstone, though about Law, has an extensive appendix on constitutional issues from a Virginian perspective, and that from the days when the rulings of the Jay and Marshall courts were not yet set in stone, blood, and iron.

http://www.constitution.org/tb/tb-0000.htm

Key: http://www.constitution.org/tb/t1e.htm (Appendix: Note E)

I quote Prof. Ziobro of Holy Cross's site, Classical America, and his online book, repeatedly, in the Classics vs. Romantic context:

http://www.holycross.edu/departments.../CA97SYLL.html

Thomas Jefferson and the Classics:

http://www.holycross.edu/departments...dClassics.html
http://www.holycross.edu/departments...ssicalAmerica/
http://www.holycross.edu/departments.../LtinEAmHP.htm

For Anglicanism, besides the Loyalist and Tory sources at constitution.org, the history of Episcopalian (Cavalier, Non-Juror) dissent in Scotland is important, and one of the best sources is:

http://www.episcopalhistory.org.uk/01tullochgorum.html

'Virginia Churchmanship' of the Anglican, gentry type, is essential background, and who can underestimate 'The Parson's Cause', in which Patrick Henry persecuted the tutor of (get this) future presidents Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe. All I can say is the Maury was one really good teacher.

Finally, we have the large 'DocSouth' collection, which has very interesting points all its own:

Southern Authors, of the first rank, but often suppressed as un-PC:

Thomas Nelson Page: http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/pageolevir/bio.html

John Pendleton Kennedy, esp. Horse-Shoe Robinson: A Tale of the Tory Ascendancy


http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/ken...shoe/menu.html

Poet Henry Timrod: http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/timrod/menu.html
Esp. his "Ethnogenesis" http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/tim...d.html#timr100

and "Carolina" http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/tim...od.html#timr80

There are many, many others in the author index:

http://docsouth.unc.edu/browse/author/

And the School Textbook collection has an interest all its own:

http://docsouth.unc.edu/global/resul...20of%20America.

A bit of a hodge-podge, but it will save me trouble linking.
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Macrobius

Megaphoron
And no list would be complete without a full listing of the contents of Thomas Jefferson's Library, which he donated the the Library of Congress. Why all these books have not been scanned and placed online is beyond me. Jefferson felt these books, and no others, were most important for us to have. He made a careful list, cataloged them, and purchased them. How many have you read?

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/jefflib.html

The full list:

http://www.loc.gov/catdir/toc/becite...07928.toc.html

http://uncpress.unc.edu/FMPro?-DB=pu...=visited&-Find

Related:
http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php...438&Itemid=259

'Top 40' Authors:

1. St. Paul
2. Montesquieu
3. Sir William Blackstone
4. John Locke
5. David Hume
6. Plutarch
7. Cesare Beccaria
8. John Trenchard and Thomas Gordon
9. Delolme
10. Samuel Pufendorf
11. Sir Edward Coke
12. Cicero
13. Thomas Hobbes
14. William Robertson
15. Hugo Grotius
16. Jean-Jacques Rousseau
17. Lord Bolingbroke
18. Francis Bacon
19. Richard Price
20. William Shakespeare
21. Livy
22. Alexander Pope
23. John Milton
24. Tacitus
25. Plato
26. Abbe Guillaume Raynal
27. Abbe Gabriel Mably
28. Niccolo Machiavelli
29. Emmerich de Vattel
30. William Petyt
31. Voltaire
32. John Robinson
33. Algernon Sidney
34. John Somers
35. James Harrington
36. Paul de Rapin-Thoyras

(Link above has hotlinks to many of these)

The Texts They Read

St. Paul

Charles Louis de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu (1689-1755)

* Persian Letters (1734)
* Reflections on the Causes of the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire (1734)
* The Spirit of the Laws (1748)

Sir William Blackstone (1723-1780)

* Commentaries on the Laws of England (1765-69)

John Locke (1632-1704)

* An Essay concerning Human Understanding (1690)
* The Two Treatises of Civil Government (1689)
* A Letter on Toleration An Essay concerning Human Understanding (1690s)
* Some Consideraations of the Consequences of the Lowering of Interest and Raising the Value of Money (1691)
* On the Reasonableness of Christianity (1696)

David Hume (1711-1776)

* A Treatise of Human Nature (1739-1740)
* An Inquiry Concerning Human Understanding (1751)
* Treatise: An Enquiry Concerning the Principles of Morals (1751)
* Political Discourses (1752)
* 'History of England(1754-1762)
* The Natural History of Religion (1755)
* Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion (1779)

Plutarch (c. 46-125)

* Roman Lives

Cesare Beccaria (1738-1794)

* An Essay on Crimes and Punishments (1764)

John Trenchard (1662-1723) and Thomas Gordon (?-1750)

* Cato's Letters (1724)
* Trenchard and Walter Moyle (1672-1721), A Short History of Standing Armies iin England (1698)

Jean Louis Delolme (1740-1805)

* The Consitution of England (1771)

Samuel, Baron von Pufendorf (1632-1694)

* Elementa Jurisprudentiae universalis (1661)
* De jure naturae et gentium (1672)

Sir Edward Coke (1552-1634)

* Institutes of the Laws of England (1628-1644)

Cicero (106-43 BC)

* De Legibus
* De Officiis
* De Oratione
* De Republica

Thomas Hobbes (1588-1679)

* Leviathan (1651)

William Robertson (1721-1793)

* History of Scotland (1759)
* History of the Reign of the Emperor Charles V (1769)
* History of America (1777)

Hugo Grotius (1583-1645)

* On the Law of War and Peace (1625)

Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778)

* Discourse on the Origin of the Inequality of Men (1754)
* The Social Contract (1762)
* Emile (1762)

Henry St. John, Viscount Bolingbroke (1678-1751)

* The Freeholder's Political Catechism (1733)
* A Dissertation Upon Parties (1735)
* Remarks on the history of England (1743)
* The Idea of a Patriot King (1749)
* A Letter on the Spirit of Patriotism (1749)
* Letters on the Study and Use of History (1752)

Francis Bacon (1561-1626)

* The Advancement of Learning (1605)
* Novum organum (1620)
* De argumentis scientarum (1623)
* Essays (1625)
* The New Atlantis (1627)

Richard Price (1723-1791)

* Observations on the Nature of Civil Liberty (1776)
* Observations on the Importance of the American Revolution (1784)

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)

Titus Livius (Livy) (59BC - AD17)

* History of Rome

Alexander Pope (1688-1744)

* The Dunciad (1728)
* Of False Taste (1731)
* Of the Uses of Riches (1732)
* An Essay on Man (1733-34)

John Milton (1608-1674)

* The Ready and Easy Way to Establish a Free Commonwealth (1660)

Tacitus (c. 56-120)

* History of Germany
* The Histories

Coxe

Plato (c. 427-347 BC)

Abbe Guillaume Raynal (1713-1796)

* Philosophical and Political History of ... the East and West Indies (1770)

Abbe Gabriel Mably (1709-1785)

* Observations on the Romans (1740)
* Observations on the Government and Laws of the U.S. (1784)

Niccolo Machiavelli (1469-1527)

* Discourses on the First Ten Books of Livy (1531)
* The Prince (1532)

Emerich de Vattel (1714-1767)

* The Law of Nations (1759-1760)

William Petyt (1636-1707)

* The Antient Right of the Commons of England Asserted (1680)

Francois Arouet de Voltaire (1694-1778)

* Letters on the English Nation (1733)
* Works (1751)
* General History and State of Europe (1756)

John Robinson (1575-1625)

Algernon Sidney (1622-1683)

* Discourses Concerning Government (1698)

John Somers (1651-1716)

* Vox populi, vox dei: Judgement of Kingdooms and Nations Concerning the Rights, Privileges, and Properties of the People (1709)

James Harrington (1611-1677)

* Oceana (1656)

Paul de Rapiin-Thoyras (1661-1725)

* History of England (1726-31)
 

Macrobius

Megaphoron
Burrhus said:
http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/pageolevir/bio.html

Is it any wonder that this website of Southern documents does not have Thomas Nelson Page's The Negroe: the Southerner's Problem, Defense of Virginia by Robert Dabney or Lectures on the Philosophy and Practise of Slavery by William Smith?

Not PC. My library has them but they don't circulate.

http://books.google.com/books?lr=&as...G=Search+Books

I haven't checked Dabney, but the 'The Negroe' is at google books, as is 'Befo' de War: Echoes in Negro Dialect' -- search above.
 
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