clefty
Phoron
Nikephoros II Phokas: "Where is the word individually in the HS?"
From the Shout Box after I asked "are we judged individually our faith and works...or by which denomination advocates for us?"
I of course am alluding to "is salvation by Christ Himself judging us or by the Church...outside of which there is none?"
But doesn't even the Church judge us individually? Whether we are in good standing with it?
Important word... Individual.
Nikephoros II Phokas: "It appears not. You have a bad habit of reading stuff into the Holy Scriptures that isn't there."
He is joined:
Petr: "Indeed clefty, since you cannot find "Trinity" in the Bible, let's see if you can find words matching for "person" (in its modern sense) or "individual" in the Bible. The Latin word "individuum" was invented by Cicero to correspond to the Greek word atom, or indivisible. Arian anklebiters refuse to admit that this verse, by itself, is enough to prove the Trinity. So you, too, must do much better to find "person" or "individual" in the Bible."
Pete had said earlier: "I myself am opposed to excessive religious individualism, the low-church Prod "every man for himself" attitude..."
Yet another:
Macrobius:
trick question I think. In Semitic languages, an individual member of a set is designated by the 'son-of' construction, as Man (a set), and Son of Man (an individual) The more Hellenistic constructions in Greek were not adopted in the LXX or NT
To help put this all into better context my question came from here:
Petr:
Radical individualism can also be sign of primitive religiosity - if that village witch doctor cannot satisfy me, I will find another who can! Or if that saint, or that idol god, did not listen to my prayers, I will try another. Shopping for spiritual helpers.
clefty:
“Chose ye this day” which group will represent you…
Nikephoros II Phokas:
Instead of the marketplace of ideas it's the marketplace of faiths
So to answer I offer:
"And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work." Revelations 22:12
Please note rewards are for works...not just having faith IN Him...
As faith compels works...but which works? is the issue here. Works determined on your own? or another denomination's authority? or peer pressure?... by the traditions of men or as He established taught and exemplified?
As He said:
But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. Matthew 24:13 ...
The reward is to the one who is uncompromising...unchanging...enduring...holding fast...His ways...
though the other individuals around him yield...follow another gospel...another christ...
From the Shout Box after I asked "are we judged individually our faith and works...or by which denomination advocates for us?"
I of course am alluding to "is salvation by Christ Himself judging us or by the Church...outside of which there is none?"
But doesn't even the Church judge us individually? Whether we are in good standing with it?
Important word... Individual.
Nikephoros II Phokas: "It appears not. You have a bad habit of reading stuff into the Holy Scriptures that isn't there."
He is joined:
Petr: "Indeed clefty, since you cannot find "Trinity" in the Bible, let's see if you can find words matching for "person" (in its modern sense) or "individual" in the Bible. The Latin word "individuum" was invented by Cicero to correspond to the Greek word atom, or indivisible. Arian anklebiters refuse to admit that this verse, by itself, is enough to prove the Trinity. So you, too, must do much better to find "person" or "individual" in the Bible."
Pete had said earlier: "I myself am opposed to excessive religious individualism, the low-church Prod "every man for himself" attitude..."
Yet another:
Macrobius:
trick question I think. In Semitic languages, an individual member of a set is designated by the 'son-of' construction, as Man (a set), and Son of Man (an individual) The more Hellenistic constructions in Greek were not adopted in the LXX or NT
To help put this all into better context my question came from here:
Petr:
Radical individualism can also be sign of primitive religiosity - if that village witch doctor cannot satisfy me, I will find another who can! Or if that saint, or that idol god, did not listen to my prayers, I will try another. Shopping for spiritual helpers.
clefty:
“Chose ye this day” which group will represent you…
Nikephoros II Phokas:
Instead of the marketplace of ideas it's the marketplace of faiths
So to answer I offer:
"And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work." Revelations 22:12
Please note rewards are for works...not just having faith IN Him...
As faith compels works...but which works? is the issue here. Works determined on your own? or another denomination's authority? or peer pressure?... by the traditions of men or as He established taught and exemplified?
As He said:
But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. Matthew 24:13 ...
The reward is to the one who is uncompromising...unchanging...enduring...holding fast...His ways...
though the other individuals around him yield...follow another gospel...another christ...
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