So clean you could eat off it. Think about that...
LOL TRUCK
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So clean you could eat off it. Think about that...
Its hard to believ these are considered classic vehicles now, over 20 years old
Big Z is a 78 F250....all during my adult life, there was no point where it wasnt considered "old"
Vehicles circa 2000 are to me still 'modern' in my view, largely bcuz of cumputer-controll but Ive been drivin all carbureturds until about 6 years ago
2 door cabs are rapidly disappearing tho, manufacturers favoring 4-doors as a sales compromise between the henpecked hubby who "needs" an F-150 to haul the occasional load, and the female head of the household who would prefer the extra room to transport kids and dogs.
Big Z is a 78 F250....all during my adult life, there was no point where it wasnt considered "old"
Vehicles circa 2000 are to me still 'modern' in my view, largely bcuz of cumputer-controll but Ive been drivin all carbureturds until about 6 years ago
2 door cabs are rapidly disappearing tho, manufacturers favoring 4-doors as a sales compromise between the henpecked hubby who "needs" an F-150 to haul the occasional load, and the female head of the household who would prefer the extra room to transport kids and dogs.
reminder: you're supposed to HAUL the loads, not TAKE them
Gawn Chippin
Arachnocronymic Metaphoron
Mein kann du aktual wörk
Gawn Chippin
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Debate, you say? Did I miss it already?
Where they placed the original speedometers, on these:
I wanted a stationary speedometer, so that the speedometer cable wouldn't move with the handlebar assembly. So, I went and harvested a speedometer head from an abandoned bus and proceeded to incorporate my original into the head. I secured the assembly, using building foam harvested from spent aerosol cans disposed on construction sites. This required building up the foam in layers and then filing each procedure to fit. It looked like glued-together popcorn, from the very start:
I attached one buzzer each for each direction, so that I can hear the turnsignals working, since they're operated by a switch of which isn't connected to the column for returning to a neutral position:
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Where they placed the original speedometers, on these:
I wanted a stationary speedometer, so that the speedometer cable wouldn't move with the handlebar assembly. So, I went and harvested a speedometer head from an abandoned bus and proceeded to incorporate my original into the head. I secured the assembly, using building foam harvested from spent aerosol cans disposed on construction sites. This required building up the foam in layers and then filing each procedure to fit. It looked like glued-together popcorn, from the very start:
I attached one buzzer each for each direction, so that I can hear the turnsignals working, since they're operated by a switch of which isn't connected to the column for returning to a neutral position:
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Who knew an actual "LOL Truck" would show up in this thread?
Those ARE funny lil trucks... we dont see anything like that here in Norf Merika
What kinda geartrain is in that thing? Does it hav stability problems?
What kinda geartrain is in that thing? Does it hav stability problems?
piscamaniac
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It's not a truck, it's a moped. BTW, its inventors named it the Ape.
Gawn Chippin
Arachnocronymic Metaphoron
Does one whheel less render it less of a truck?
Being class if eyed as a Moe
Pedo 
, insurance is dirt cheap, it's roadtax-exempt (well actually, both sales- and road taxes are incorporated into the purchase of the annual insurance license plate), and safety/emmissions inspection-exempt
Typical of older-designed Brit and Italian vehicles, if they don't leak, there's nothing in there.
It's driven by a 2-cycle Vespa engine mounted backwards, connected to a swing-axle drivetrain. Originally, they're sold with 50 cc cylinders. Mine was already upgraded to 85 cubes, when I bought it used.
I'm attempting to seal an oil leak of which was long overdue for attention. I removed the clutch cover, yesterday, and this is how bone-dry it was. This is probably not good for the wet clutch that's in there.
Hanging down next to the wheel is the oil injection pump. Some owners take these out of service, preferring to mix their gasoline with oil. But this pump is made in Japan. So, I trust its reliability:
Four years ago, I replaced the clutch with an expensive copper plate racing clutch of which has stiffer springs, thinking that the original one was too weak. As it turned out, the original sufficed. It was the original owner who improperly operated the vehicle, causing the clutch to burn;
Here are the original toasted clutch pack's cork plates:
Being class if eyed as a Moe
Pedo , insurance is dirt cheap, it's roadtax-exempt (well actually, both sales- and road taxes are incorporated into the purchase of the annual insurance license plate), and safety/emmissions inspection-exemptIt has a needlessly high center of gravity, making it somewhat unpredictable on sharp turns. It took getting used to, at first.
Typical of older-designed Brit and Italian vehicles, if they don't leak, there's nothing in there.
It's driven by a 2-cycle Vespa engine mounted backwards, connected to a swing-axle drivetrain. Originally, they're sold with 50 cc cylinders. Mine was already upgraded to 85 cubes, when I bought it used.
I'm attempting to seal an oil leak of which was long overdue for attention. I removed the clutch cover, yesterday, and this is how bone-dry it was. This is probably not good for the wet clutch that's in there.
Hanging down next to the wheel is the oil injection pump. Some owners take these out of service, preferring to mix their gasoline with oil. But this pump is made in Japan. So, I trust its reliability:
Four years ago, I replaced the clutch with an expensive copper plate racing clutch of which has stiffer springs, thinking that the original one was too weak. As it turned out, the original sufficed. It was the original owner who improperly operated the vehicle, causing the clutch to burn;
Here are the original toasted clutch pack's cork plates:
85 cc single cylinder engine? That seems pretty underpowered...How many gears does it hav in transmission?
We hav no equivalent to these things in the US of A, Ive only seen 'em on Mr. Bean and some Amerikwan picker show on the televitz
We hav no equivalent to these things in the US of A, Ive only seen 'em on Mr. Bean and some Amerikwan picker show on the televitz
piscamaniac
MAGA Republican
Ironically I've only ever seen these things in mountainous areas of italy and even seen one in the mountains round here. Perhaps the dinky wheels compensate for the lack of horsepower? The ape is dangerous very easy to flip over, but it so light you can flip it upright by hand.
piscamaniac
MAGA Republican
I think you'll find your Apé is missing two wheels, a wheel AND a steering wheel. The above has a steering wheel, no? Anyway, its cool that they classify your vehicle as a moped and you know how to fix it up.Does one whheel less render it less of a truck?
Gawn Chippin
Arachnocronymic Metaphoron
85 ccs isn't that little, for a 2-psychol engine where each rotation propells a power stroke. It's maybe not as efficient as a 4-stroker. But, it's not that far from it, due to the scavenging possibilities of which aren't possible on 4-cycle engines.
It has 4 speeds. Because reverse gear is incorporated in the transaxle, theoretically there are 4 speeds available in reverse, also.
There are even greater aftermarket replacement cylinder possibilities and exhaust systems for these. The following is one of which I've had my eye on, as a possible replacement, once mine wears out. I'm not sure as to buying it now, before the price increases even more. Then again, I don't drive enough, to put considerable wear onto it. Being of aluminum cast, this one could easilly get modified for water-cooling:
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Going even larger displacement would mean that I would have to replace the crankshaft with a stroker
Scavenging is indeed possible with 4-cycle engines. It is, in fact, quite common.
Scavenging (engine) - Wikipedia
Gawn Chippin
Arachnocronymic Metaphoron
The intake scavenging of both engine types is basically identical, in principal, where intake runnel length determines the amount of lower-end torque produced. A 2-cycle engine's exhaust scavenging is, however, critical to its performance and much more complicated to configure than that of a typical 4-cycle engine.
I have attempted to solve the leakage problem, through adding two more O-rings. The following shows the ring placement. The Germans would have built the cluch disengagement shaft above the unit, instead of below where oil could leak through the foarce of gravity:
The ring sits between the housing and a shaft bushing. I ended up driving out the bushing, before inserting the 3 rings:
The shaft acts like a rack & pinion system of soarts, driving a button towards the center of the clutch assembly:
I have attempted to solve the leakage problem, through adding two more O-rings. The following shows the ring placement. The Germans would have built the cluch disengagement shaft above the unit, instead of below where oil could leak through the foarce of gravity:
The ring sits between the housing and a shaft bushing. I ended up driving out the bushing, before inserting the 3 rings:
The shaft acts like a rack & pinion system of soarts, driving a button towards the center of the clutch assembly:
Interasting poasts, bruther.
Gawn Chippin
Arachnocronymic Metaphoron
Here's what a stock muffler looks like, on one of these. It only looks that way, because it's an aftermarket, supposedly higher performance type, resembling the original one of which was equipped for catylitic converter use. It's designed like a snail, because of space-limitations. Below it is my fan shroud:
Here's what a new original looks like, with converter and other repressive devices:
www.apemania-shop.de
I have undergone a weight-saving campaign, taking advantage of a battery of which was in need of replacement. After having searched for a new battery, according to suitable dimensions and capacity, I could only find a Harley battery of alternative design to fit. It isn't of typical lead-acid design. Instead, I opted for a more modern fiber wool-jelly variant. The only other variant of which would have been of utmost suitability was of an ultra-expensive marine type.
Here, my original battery next to its replacement:
It's powerfull enuff for turning the engine over. The only drawback, however, is the somewhat weaker charging system of which isn't capable of handling the demands of both charging the battery, simultaneous to feeding prolonged turn signal activity (I have updated the 10 watt bulbs with those of 21 wattage) and supplemental windscreen heating. Perhaps, this is the reason as to why the original was largely displaced. A little
-rigging was necessary, in order to get it adapted. The jack is an authentic VW/Audi light alloy issue, replacing the weaker heavy steel original:
Here's what a new original looks like, with converter and other repressive devices:
Auspuff APE 50 E4 - komplett aus Neufahrzeug, 297,50 €
Auspuff - KOMPLETT - für die APE 50 E4 - aus Neufahrzeug - 0km Absolutes NEUTEIL - zum Spitzenpreis - UVP Piaggio liegt bei über 700 Euro
www.apemania-shop.de
I have undergone a weight-saving campaign, taking advantage of a battery of which was in need of replacement. After having searched for a new battery, according to suitable dimensions and capacity, I could only find a Harley battery of alternative design to fit. It isn't of typical lead-acid design. Instead, I opted for a more modern fiber wool-jelly variant. The only other variant of which would have been of utmost suitability was of an ultra-expensive marine type.
Here, my original battery next to its replacement:
It's powerfull enuff for turning the engine over. The only drawback, however, is the somewhat weaker charging system of which isn't capable of handling the demands of both charging the battery, simultaneous to feeding prolonged turn signal activity (I have updated the 10 watt bulbs with those of 21 wattage) and supplemental windscreen heating. Perhaps, this is the reason as to why the original was largely displaced. A little
-rigging was necessary, in order to get it adapted. The jack is an authentic VW/Audi light alloy issue, replacing the weaker heavy steel original:
Buglord
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I have owned roughly six trucks in my life and I just recently bought a 1996 K2500 for 2k dollars. If anyone spends five figures on a GMT400 truck they deserve what is coming to them.
Johnny- you hav probably thot about replacing turn signales with LEDs already
You mentioned prolonged turn signal use. I often hav need of leaving hazard flashers blinking while working near traffuck, so hav wired up dedicated LED strobe circuits on my trucks. There are cheapo-chiner strobe systems available using 1w or 3w LEDs, you mite wanna consider.
I like using the 3w chiner LEDs in conjuction with FENIEX flasher-controller https://www.feniex.com/controllers/4x-flasher
I dont like the incandescent bulbs, they draw a lotta electrons and LEDs are cheap now.
Some vehicles made after 1990 that came with incandescent brake lites run low voltage thru the brakelite circuit as part of the transmission lockup but obv thats not something u need to deal with on the Ape
You mentioned prolonged turn signal use. I often hav need of leaving hazard flashers blinking while working near traffuck, so hav wired up dedicated LED strobe circuits on my trucks. There are cheapo-chiner strobe systems available using 1w or 3w LEDs, you mite wanna consider.
I like using the 3w chiner LEDs in conjuction with FENIEX flasher-controller https://www.feniex.com/controllers/4x-flasher
I dont like the incandescent bulbs, they draw a lotta electrons and LEDs are cheap now.
Some vehicles made after 1990 that came with incandescent brake lites run low voltage thru the brakelite circuit as part of the transmission lockup but obv thats not something u need to deal with on the Ape