Middle Political Stances on the Jewish Question

[kanethenotorious]

I think a middle position is consistent with my cynical distrust of populism. Basically, Jews do have too much influence. However, the average Jew is really only guilty of having doors opened that otherwise would not have been opened. They're on the receiving end of nepotism, but not the dealing end of nepotism. They're only a few "dealers." They're many "users."

An extreme position would argue that the average Jew is somehow ideologically in a chess game with the small number of Jews who have huge amounts of influence, but my stance is they (the average Jew) profit from it but they opportunistically profit from it. I'd conclude this is a good middle stance. Not too extreme. Not complete denial.

 

[kanethenotorious]

Just because philosemites go too far to support Jews doesn't mean populists should go in the opposite direction, becoming judeo-obsessives. The choices aren't between Kahanism and neo-Nazism. Mild criticisms exist. I've always known this, but it's more amusing to oscillate between the extremes. But being serious, people should know that there is a middle ground that opposes without going overboard.

 

[kanethenotorious]

I think what has to be kept in mind is that there are leaders and followers and the vast majority of people simply take prepackaged ideologies and follow them. It may be liberalism, communism, zionism, nationalism, democrat, republican - whatever. But the majority of people are not ideological creators or innovators. Therefore most Jews are not cunning inventors coming up with new ways to undermine Western Civilization - most Jews are simply sheep who are following the herd. Therefore it's really about ideology, but not jewishness. As old school kane says, it's about "what is your ideology."

 

[Petr]

Once you have fully understood and accepted the damage that the atheistic Enlightenment has done on the Western civilization, you are no longer nearly so obsessed with Jews, even while being fully aware of Jewish misdeeds.

As Opus131 once put it on the Old Phora:

Leftism begun with Greek rationalism (which survived in the middle ages thanks to nominalism). In essence, without Christianity, the west would have descended into this materialistic hell hole we call modern "civilization" well before it was time for that to happen. This attempt to blame Christianity for the errors of modernity stems from Aryan denial. It is a way for us to deny our own degeneracy while blaming Semites exclusively, as if there could possibly be such a thing as human groups which are perfectly good (our own), and human groups which are exclusively evil (everybody else). Sorry, but we all have our share in the decline of human civilizations. Blacks with their violence, Jews with their insidiousness, and us with our soul crushing rationalism. The reign of the anti-Christ has need of subjects, and those will belong to all races. The devil is thoroughly multicultural.​

 

[kanethenotorious]

I hit like on the above post because I agree with what Atheism has done, but I classify myself as a Deist as opposed to a Christian.

 

[kanethenotorious]

I think what is wrong is to make broad generalizations about the ideology that some Jews have chosen and irresponsibly apply them to every Jew. It would be like locking up all Black people because Blacks have higher criminal tendencies - but we still only prosecute Blacks as individuals. And we should let Jews chose their ideologies and beliefs. That's a moderate position, because you can still rationally criticize them.

 

[kanethenotorious]

Zionism was a mess created by western imperialists and capitalized on by right wing Jews. I suppose you can't blame all Jews. However, Kahanism is an extremist movement even within Zionism. I can see why in my desire to be fair to Jews, I went too far and accepted extremist Jews. Basically, I did a little bit of reverse anti-Arabism in my misguided attempt to find a place to include Jews. The real way to include Jews is to include the ones aren't extremists.

 

[kanethenotorious]

Many people fall in line ideologically but not everyone falls in line. A good example is Barack Obama's (half) brother. He's a Trump supporter. I'm not a Trump supporter, but it just goes to show that people can choose ideologies that you wouldn't expect. They're bound to be Jews who dissent from Jewish extremism.

Malik Obama - Wikipedia

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[Grug Arius]

Outside of Christian theology, antisemitism is essentially a reaction to the disproportionate influence of jews ( within context of being a minority inside a host nation) such as being advocates for multicultural left-liberalism as a survival strategy.

The middle east and north africa prior to 1948 is a good example of how jews can peacefully exist alongside other populations. With the rise of the Anglohomo judeolatry and establishment of the colony of "Israel", this amiable relationship ended. It was good for jewish nationalists and supremacists, but not so for others.

 

[kanethenotorious]

I do think there is a minority of people who take racial purity to such an extreme that they would oppose Jews on purely racial grounds. But i think that's a minority. Most people are just concerned that Jews have too much influence and claim to be the chosen people while promoting antiracism in non-Jewish countries at the same time.

 

[Grug Arius]

It someone were to assert that Jewry has advocated for left-liberal multiculturalism as a survival strategy, this is considered "antisemitic", because being critical of any sort of group dynamics is countered with sanctimonious platitudes about "racism", "antisemitism" or some other "ism",

That is, unless the object is Whites instead of Jews,Blacks, or any other "POC" or "marginalized groups" ( I feel kinda sick whenever using this term, since its clear that in the west, "marginalized groups" are favored by the regime.

As a Whiteman with a love for my own people, I can begrudgingly admit that White America- particularly my kind of Whites who are rural, right-wing types- are largely responsible for the blind support for all these dumb wars the USA has pursued for the last 100 years or so. This doesnt make me anti-White anymore than it makes me antisemitic to state the obvious role Jewry has played with regards to nation-wrecking left-liberalism. But we have an antiWhite, philosemitic system which enforces an obvious double standard.

Nation-wrecking patriotardism, or nation-wrecking left-liberalism. They should both be condemned, the fear of the bogus moralizing buzzwords notwithstanding

 

[kanethenotorious]

#BanTheADL Is Trending on X

Is it “anti-Semitic” to ban the ADL?

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#BanTheADL trended on twitter / X Yesterday. I can see a reason for Jews to have a defense organization, but the ADL is thoroughly discredited in my mind because it's an offense organization. It goes and aggressively accuses everyone of antisemitism. The ADL even denies that Zionism is a settler project. Trump attacked "Warmongers, Communists and Globalists" and the ADL called that comment antisemitic.

No way is critsizing something like the ADL antisemitic in my opinion. True antisemitism is when you look at 23andme and hate someone just because they have Jewish blood. Even religious antisemitism is really just anti-Judaism.

 

[kanethenotorious]

I've been thinking about the question a lot and I think what makes Jews unique is that they assimilated slower because of their religion. They're about 50% Middle Eastern 50% European. The thing is that Jews don't proselytize. So if they don't proselytize, they tend to be immigrants who seek out other immigrants for mates. But the barriers aren't totally up - conversion to Judaism is possible, just not "pushed."

I'm sure there were all kinds of immigrants between the Middle East and Europe and within Europe from nation to nation and I'm sure they just get swallowed up quickly by the native population and assimilated. Jews sought to marry other Jews and did so with about 50% original Jews and 50% conversions.

The thing that stands out is that they resist assimilation because of religion, because other groups actively recruit deep into native populations which they settle.

edit: And now they're circling back together with Zionism. My only issue with Zionism is that it's done at the expense of Arabs. Otherwise I don't mind Jews forming a state if not at someone else's expense.

 

[kanethenotorious]

What I'm looking for is known as a sigma male. A sigma male doesn't follow the crowd. I suppose I'm looking for a similar trait in females. There is a crowd to follow but not everyone follows it.

 

[Lord Osmund de Ixabert]

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