Western Reactions to the War in Ukraine

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Rawhide "Doug" Kobayashi

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This thread is for Western reactions to the happenings going in Ukraine, namely, Twitterati, stupid media, politicians, etc.

E.g:

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(I honestly don't know what is worse, that a sitting member of Congressman talks like a middle schooler and uses terms like 'OWNED', or that he's fallen for a fuckin' Sam Hyde meme)
 
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Viktor Orbán speaks wisely, clearly seeking to project the image of stable gravitas for the Hungarian voters in the upcoming elections:

dailynewshungary.com

Here are PM Orbán's thoughts about Putin, Russia and the war in Ukraine - Daily News Hungary

PM Viktor Orbán gave a long interview to the government-close Mandiner in which he talked about Russia, Putin, Ukraine and the war.
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03/03/2022

Here are PM Orbán’s thoughts about Putin, Russia and the war in Ukraine


Hungary wants peace and has solved “4 or 5 crises” in recent years, Prime Minister Viktor Orbán said in an interview published in the weekly Mandiner on Thursday. Orbán said in the interview given earlier this week that Russia was “rearranging the European security map”. Russia “feels safe” only with a buffer zone around the country, and is attempting to “turn Ukraine into a neutral zone by military action, after diplomatic attempts have failed to do so,” he said.

“Hungary has made it clear that it does not accept war as a means to any end, and condemns all who choose that path,” Orbán said. Russia’s demands have since remained unchanged, and “since the military advantage is on their side, it was only a matter of time before the talks started”, he said.

Hungary has a vested interest in a speedy agreement and the restoration of peace to the region, Orban said. “We condemn Russia for launching a war on Ukraine. We think the parties should restart talks as soon as possible, and have offered to host the talks. But what really matters is that they start talking. All Europe should work on achieving peace,” he said.

Until recent times, Hungary had “balanced and fair relations” with Russia, Orbán said. Russian President Vladimir Putin “always honoured our agreements, and Hungary did the same,” he said. Hungary will have to redefine its goals and interests in view of the new state of affairs, he said.

The Hungarian government has not vetoed EU sanctions against Russia, and sees EU unity as of paramount importance in the present situation, he said. “Regarding bilateral ties after the war, Russia will definitely still exist afterwards,” he said. “There is no reason whatsoever for us to sever energy cooperation with Russia. EU leaders said themselves that the sanctions will not harm the delivery of energy resources from Russia because that would ruin the European economy,” he said.

Should the upgrade of the Paks nuclear plant fall victim to the sanctions, Hungary would be forced to buy even more gas from Russia at higher prices, he said. “I do not support that step, because Hungarians should not have to pay the price of war,” he said.

Orbán said that at times of war, “strategic calmness… speaking less but succinctly, responsibly,” was of the essence. At times like these, “we cannot allow for campaign interests to take over,” he said. “The opposition wants to send weapons and soldiers to shoot at and fight against the Russians. This proves they have no routine, no knowledge and no sense of responsibility. We need responsible politics, security and stability, rather than adventurers,” he said.

Orbán offered Hungary’s help in the talks with Russia. Hungary is ready to host the talks, and continues to provide aid to Ukraine, fuel, food and other basic goods, he said. “We also accept everyone coming from Ukraine,” he said. Regarding the world economy, Orbán said China was likely to become the strongest economic and military power in the near future. Hungary, with its population of 10 million, must “manoeuvre cleverly”, he said, adding that “we are in an alliance with the West but would also like to develop beneficial relations with the rising great power”.

Commenting on the new German government, he said that after reading their programme, he found there were “many question marks”. He said the programme “announced that Germany would become an immigrant country, denied that society is divided exclusively into men and women, they plan to legalise soft drugs, empty the notion of the nation and they want a federal Europe,” he added. “We would like to sign a tolerance agreement with them in order to ensure that we could go our own way in these matters,” he added.

Commenting on government measures, he said that part of the 13th month pension was paid last year, labour-related allowances have been offered to families ever since 2010, the policy of tax cuts continued over the past 12 years and tax refunds have been given to families after last year’s growth of 7 percent.

Orbán said that in view of the current war situation, the Hungarian policy of demographic growth will be bolstered with high-level security policy. “The next decade will be all about security,” he added. Commenting on the parliamentary elections, he said “under normal circumstances the election should only be concerned with good governance but we view it as an issue which determines the nation’s fate because there is a danger that a new generation of communists might return”. “I have greater hopes than merely victory,” he said. “I hope that the communists will not survive another defeat,” he added. “A new victory could also force a radical transformation of the opposition and this could open a new chapter in Hungary’s domestic politics”, he said. “If someone wants to bring real change to domestic politics, they should transform the opposition rather than change the government,” he added.
 
Rawhide "Doug" Kobayashi

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"Two maps. On the left, in red, the minority of countries that have sanctioned Russia. On the right, in red and yellow, the minority of countries that voted no/abstain during a vote on a resolution at the UN against the glorification of Nazism & neo-Nazism. They are the same"
 
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This is a clear sign to Russia that if they, too, can hold long enough the sanctions will eventually ease up:

 
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