Commentary on the Prigozhin Coup Attempt
- Thread starter Petr
- Start date
Gawn Chippin
Arachnocronymic Metaphoron
If parental origins of the following were to be reversed, would even mixed with European Mischling Jews consider this a fellow Jew?:
Alone this "matrilinial" pipe dream is an admission to biological Jewry. No other "religion" gets exheritted through any parent's gender, regardless of having a Catholic or a Muslim mother.
Here, a more accurate unit of measurement:
The Nuremberg Laws
Learn about the laws that redefined what it meant to be German in Nazi Germany, and that stripped Jews and others of citizenship.
The following way of thought would also apply to preserving the Jewish race. In fact, the 1st Testament mentions they being commanded to uphold this very policy for securing their own racial preservation:
Last edited:
Arrow Cross
Member
We both know how extremely shallow the religiosity of the new Russian state is and how extremely corrupt their state church is. It's a disgrace to Christianity, just like the fag churches of the West. At least Soviet state atheism was honest.
A 'corrupt' state church doing more to save Hungarians from a genocidal Ukrainian puppet state than all the Arrow Crossist parties combined. I'm inclined to think the ROC intervention to get conscripted Hungarians in POW camps released to Hungary is a mistake if it is going to be insulted like this. Let the Ukrainian government gang press them again into their human wave attacks so rabid morons in Lvov can go to Berlin or London. Seems like a fair deal to me. Ingrate.
Gawn Chippin
Arachnocronymic Metaphoron
This is becoming a soap opera. Now, they're finding wigs. In one photograph, he almost doubles for Alexander Solzhenitzyn.
All of this Bohunkery has become to much to digest
I'm outta' here
All of this Bohunkery has become to much to digest
I'm outta' here
Petr
Administrator
Oh, No!!….. Prigozhin Goes Down, And Nobody Cries.
Not two months ago, I wrote a blog post about Evgeny Prigozhin’s Mutiny. Immodestly, I allow myself to quote some lines from that post: “Make no mistake: Putin can squash Prigozhin like…
mundabor.wordpress.com
Oh, No!!….. Prigozhin Goes Down, And Nobody Cries.
Posted by Mundabor
Not two months ago, I wrote a blog post about Evgeny Prigozhin’s Mutiny.
Immodestly, I allow myself to quote some lines from that post:
“Make no mistake: Putin can squash Prigozhin like an insect if he thinks the madman has to go. But Putin is prudent, and Prigozhin is popular, and Putin is not really into squashing people like insects”.
“Another guy would have been dead by 10am”.
Whilst we still do not have the official confirmation, it seems clear enough: Prigozhin (and Utkin) have crashed in one of the former’s private jets just hours ago.
We still don’t have all details. We don’t know if a missile hit the plane, or there was some other sort of problem. Allow me to believe this was not totally accidental.
Who dun’ it? Difficult to say. If Putin had decided that the guy had to go, he would do it not immediately after the mutiny, but some time afterwards. If this is the case, boy it was fast. Remember Putin’s words after the mutiny? “Unavoidable punishment?” I do.
But I also remember the number of enemies this man had made. His relentless feud against Shoigu and Gerasimov. His constant berating of the regular Russian forces. The several planes that went down on that day. Last but not least, the investigations against him for the very lucrative contracts he had with the Army.
This guy was a difficult one. Clearly a patriot (in his own peculiar way) he had made a Garibaldi reputation for himself. You can’t just put him to the wall like he is a poor bastard, like any Ceausescu. You need to be subtler about it, whilst leaving no doubt among the smart cookies that traitors and mutineers get punished.
Was it Putin? Was it Shoigu? Was it Gerasimov? I’d say 2. and 3. still lead to 1., as none of the others are likely to take such personal risks, much as they must have hated Prigozhin’s guts. The only alternative I can imagine is angry fractions of the Armed Forces, extremely angry at the way Prigozhin had treated them and the country, furious for the planes that went down on the day, and thinking that whoever takes him and Utkin (great basterd, this one) out will likely not be punished for his patriotic act after, again, several aircrafts went down on the day of the mutiny, with up to 30 people killed (I do believe this was not intentional, but perhaps I was wrong).
“Mistake”, you say? Well this is a game two can play, I suppose.
Garibaldi has died. Lord Byron has left his mortal coil.
If he gets a state funeral, we will know the government was involved 
I will keep my sadness confined to between 1 and 1.4 seconds, like Mr Clarkson above.
If I were the Supreme Commander, an arrogant billionaire mutineer staging such a show as he did would not live anyway. I’d have had him (and Utkin) killed by 10am.
But then again Putin is so smart, and so are Shoigu and Gerasimov.
Petr
Administrator
On Prigozhin Again
After my post of yesterday, I feel that I need to add more about how I see the events surrounding Prigozhin’s dead. It’s a good occasion to repeat points of Catholic doctrine, and it is…
mundabor.wordpress.com
Posted by Mundabor
After my post of yesterday, I feel that I need to add more about how I see the events surrounding Prigozhin’s dead. It’s a good occasion to repeat points of Catholic doctrine, and it is vastly more interesting than reporting about the faggot bishop du jour.
First of all, let me tell you what I do not believe.
CIA did it
Poppycock. They can’t tie up their shoelaces anymore. They’d never be able to pull this one off. Also, no motive besides making the Russians believe their boss is the coolest guy alive (see below).
Ukraine did it
Same as above, but with the added inconvenience of vastly fewer means. No motive, either. Prigo had been, for a short day, their revolutionary hero who was going to depose Putin. They would want him alive for as long as possible, hoping he causes more mischief.
The Joos/The Great Conspiracy/ESIS/ Bin Laden’s Little-Known Child/The Billionaires/ St Gabriel The Archangel.
No.
Why not?
Because.
What I think might have happened is as follows:
- Vladimir Vladimirovich gives the order after the failed mutiny in June: guy has to go and, with him, at least Utkin (the real mind of the operation, and the guy from which the name “Wagner” comes from). As Prigozhin is a security nutcase, after a while it turns out that no suitable windows or balconies are to be found. Then the order is given to strike anyway, trying to minimise the collateral damage. Let us remember: Prigozhin is an extremely popular “war hero”. He can’t be just executed, Seth Rich style. There must be some element of plausible deniability, that makes still everyone understand what happens if you go against Putin.
- Rogue elements (in Italy we say: “mad splinters”) of the security services/secret services/aviation/ anti aerial forces, extremely resentful for the losses Prigozhin inflicted on the day of the mutiny (up to 30 people killed, probably much less in the end but you get the drift) take things in their own hands, safe in the knowledge that Prigozhin was a marked man and, even if they are discovered, their punishment would be mild. This happens more often than you think. Not too many years ago, Luftwaffe pilots willingly underwent disciplinary action for making a symbolic, low-altitude “thanksgiving flight” over the tomb of the great Hans-Ulrich Rudel, the guy who took down 519 tanks – and much more besides – on his Stuka. They knew it could be fatal to their career. They did it anyway. For a hero of 50 or 60 years earlier. In Germany.
- Some other rival. Prigo must have mightily angered a number of people in the last decades. A guy who can think he can bully Putin into firing Shoigu will certainly bully many other, in many cases rich and powerful people, in much more brutal ways. Give it a couple of decades, and it becomes like one of those murder mysteries where everyone of the suspected characters has a motive. Again: if this was the scenario, the killer/killers knew they were targeting a marked man.
Now, let us examine the morals of it all.
Russia is in what would be called a war in every European Country. Even my Cat agrees that Prigozhin lost his head and mutinied. It does not even matter whether he thought he was doing well. Perhaps he did, but he did not stop when Putin called his act treason. I think he sealed his destiny on that occasion.
Prigozhin was a military objective. A military objective can and should be taken down, and if other around him die they are part of a double effect. This does not make the action of taking down the enemy sinful. If Putin was behind this, I am sure he tried to avoid collateral damage and, when he saw it could not be avoided, accepted the double effect. Every other party that might have been involved would, if Christian, reason along the same lines. It seems to me that Prigozhin, who was really strict about his security, forced the “forced solution” instead of allowing the powers that be to get away with a Seth Rich type of incident.
But all in all, and whoever this has been, one man emerges from all of this.
The guy who, when you betray him, you will end up dead.
Prigozhid fucked around and found out