"You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything..."

clefty

Phoron
  • surenot:
    Truly globohomo times we live in, it's sad
    • ONE
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    Yesterday at 10:26 PM
  • Macrobius:
    (the answer btw is, the Law of God trumps the laws of men)
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    Poz
  • Macrobius:
    (for those who don't know 'The Law of God' was the schoolbook catechism in Russia before the revolution -- copies in English available if you look for them)
    • Macrobius:

      The 'Law of God' Curriculum in Modern Russia​

      Note: the ebook is rather inexpensive on Google Play and might be of interest to some. Holy Rus': The Rebirth of Orthodoxy in the New Russia
      whigdev.com
    • clefty:
      Macrobius said:
      (for those who don't know 'The Law of God' was the schoolbook catechism in Russia before the revolution -- copies in English available if you look for them)
      Click to expand...
      https://www.orthodoxphotos.com/readings/LGFLS/commandments.shtml
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    • clefty:
      "But in venerating holy icons we do not consider them gods or idols. They are only likenesses, representations of God, or of the angels or of the saints. The word icon comes from the Greek and means likeness. In venerating icons and praying before icons, we do not pray to the material icons (the paint, wood or metal), but to the saint who is represented thereon." VS Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing...Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them...
      Yesterday at 11:14 PM
    • surenot:
      Clefty is a Gnostic like many prots in merika
      Yesterday at 11:15 PM
    • Nikephoros II Phokas:
      Kike-a-like religion :thumbsdown:
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      Yesterday at 11:24 PM
    • Judeobot v.6.66:
      Oy vey itz annudda shoah!!!
      Yesterday at 11:24 PM
    • Macrobius:
      @clefty that link of yours is generally good, but for the one point you are making it is a bit lacking: https://www.septuagint.bible/exodus...col_id=column-1&p_p_col_pos=1&p_p_col_count=2
      Today at 12:07 AM
    • Macrobius:
      The verse in question is 3 οὐκ ἔσονταί σοι θεοὶ ἕτεροι πλὴν ἐμοῦ. 4 οὐ ποιήσεις σεαυτῷ εἴδωλον, οὐδὲ παντὸς ὁμοίωμα, ὅσα ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ ἄνω καὶ ὅσα ἐν τῇ γῇ κάτω καὶ ὅσα ἐν τοῖς ὕδασιν ὑποκάτω τῆς γῆς.
      Today at 12:09 AM
    • Macrobius:
      eidolon means Idol. homoioma is not an eikon
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      Today at 12:09 AM
    • Macrobius:
      Word for word my translation of 4: 'Thou shalt not make unto thyself (an) idol, nor (a) likeness (of any/all) things, so far as the Heaven above and so far (as) in the Earth below ... so far as in the waters far below the Earth.
      Edited
      Today at 12:13 AM
    • Macrobius:
      It's relatively easy to find commentaries that discuss the relevant words in Greek, and how they are used in the NT: https://www.studylight.org/dictionaries/eng/mbd/1/16--image-likeness-similitude.html
      Today at 12:16 AM
    • Macrobius:
      The key text of course is the one about the creation of Man *in* the image. St Maximos Confessor stresses that Man is not *an* image (Icon) of God, but *in* the Icon of God.
      Today at 12:17 AM
    • Macrobius:
      So watch out for that distinction.
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clefty

Phoron


" the recognizable
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uh symbols and cultural traits associated with power within the Pagan world were preserved in a new version of

Christianity and po Gregory even said to do this like also he said don't destroy their temples just take out the idols

and put one of Jesus in so like the transition was much more gradual than than on the ground they wouldn't

necessarily felt that it was so big a huge change culturally as it really was and in fact there is a bead even records

um the king in East Anglia radal who kept in the temp in his own Temple he kept his idols of the Gods thunor and

Roden and he added uh an idol of Christ next to them so while the Christian

faith theologically requires the non-w worship not worshiping any other gods

the Pagan Faith doesn't have any kind of uh rule against adding an idol of Christ

to your altar so so it was quite easy to sort of slip in and then once people

have gotten used to the idea of him as being one of the Gods then you could get rid of the other ones"
 

clefty

Phoron
"When I take it off, every other device feels flat and boring: My 75-inch OLED TV feels like a CRT from the ’90s; my iPhone feels like a flip phone from yesteryear, and even the real world around me feels surprisingly flat. And this is the problem. In the same way that I can’t imagine driving a car without a stereo, in the same way I can’t imagine not having a phone to communicate with people or take pictures of my children, in the same way I can’t imagine trying to work without a computer, I can see a day when we all can’t imagine living without an augmented reality. When we’re enveloped more and more by technology, to the point that we crave these glasses like a drug, like we crave our iPhones today but with more desire for the dopamine hit this resolution of AR can deliver.

I know deep down that the Apple Vision Pro is too immersive, and yet all I want to do is see the world through it. “I’m sure the technology is terrific. I still think and hope it fails,” one Silicon Valley investor said to me. “Apple feels more and more like a tech fentanyl dealer that poses as a rehab provider.” https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/2024/4/1/out-of-sight

how they mock when I warn of the power of images...
 

clefty

Phoron
It's always about da joos...

but no worries they are not worshipping...just venerating...no bowing going on here or serving...so no problems despite it being written "dont bow or serve any made"...



"Both Jude and Judas are translations of the name Ὶούδας in the Koine Greek original text of the New Testament, which in turn is a Greek variant of Judah (Y'hudah), a name which was common among Jews at the time."

wait wut? The apostles were joos? So Joode would find this relic tour quite disarming...LOL

and the name Joode came from Joodith a Hittite not a joo...she was Esau's wife Jacob's sister in law...Jacob then had Joodah...

Joodah means "praise"

So Joode is true praise Joodas is false...neat eh?
 
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